Brian: 0:00

All right, well, welcome back to the Mindful Bytes podcast. It's been a while since we've been here, but today we're going to talk about

Ashton: 0:07

clearing up the image of meta AI with a new pair of glasses.

Brian: 0:11

Hey, I got a pair of those too. See, let's go ahead and dive into today's episode. All right, everybody, this is Brian, the Gen X business leader.

Ashton: 0:23

I'm Ashton, your Gen Z gadget geek.

Shawna: 0:26

Oh nice.

Ashton: 0:27

Gadget geek.

Shawna: 0:28

I like that one,

Brian: 0:30

geek it out.

Shawna: 0:30

.

Olivia: 0:31

I'm Olivia, your social media savvy millennial.

Brian: 0:34

You see what happens when we take such a long break.

Olivia: 0:36

I know I literally was like I don't remember anything. What's a podcast?

Shawna: 0:41

That's what I was thinking too. I was like what am I? I don't know that kind of fits into my introduction, I'm Shawna, your Xennial digital dinosaur.

Brian: 0:52

Well, and I just got to say we haven't been around for a while, because we've got a lot going on.

Brian: 0:56

We've had hurricanes, we've had projects, so yeah, so we're back. I think probably some people were even on vacation, I don't remember it's been a lot. But hey, we are back and ready to wrap up the year with the Mindful Bytes. Just a reminder if you want to jump around to different topics, you can use the chapter markers. On the episode Ashton, why don't you go ahead and get us started? Tell us about these Meta Ray Bands.

Ashton: 1:20

These things are awesome. I've really enjoyed using these so far. Me and Brian have a pair. He has the limited edition clear ones and I have the large Wayfarers and I mean these things are just, they're something else. Ever since I've switched to Android, I've been complaining about Google not being as good as Siri, but in my opinion, meta is actually the best artificial intelligence. Over Siri and Google and Gemini and all of them, I've liked Meta the best, which is a really high standard.

Brian: 2:04

Why is Meta the best to you? You?

Ashton: 2:06

I think it's honestly just because of the cameras because, like it talks really naturally, just like siri does it, it has relevant information. It hasn't failed me with irrelevant information yet, but I think it's because it can see what you're seeing. It has these little cameras here. You'll see, it has some little cameras. It's actually talking right now but, uh, you'll see, it has little cameras and it just it sees the world around you and it gets information from it and it's really, really good at it I don't think it's interesting.

Brian: 2:39

Ashton, like with, like you just said, like it's talking right now, that is very interesting because I know it's something you're probably going to cover. But like I love the sound, how you can hear, but other people around you can't hear it. Really, but it is kind of weird because it's like you have voices in your head just say, walking down the sidewalk, I'm listening to a podcast, or it starts talking to me and Shawna talking. It's like I'm sorry, hold on a second, my glasses are talking to me and Sean was talking. It's like I'm sorry, hold on a second, my glasses are talking to me. I got to figure out how to turn that off.

Shawna: 3:08

At least people are already used to hearing people talking to themselves because of headsets and everything. Like you see people walking around talking to themselves all the time. It's no big deal anymore.

Ashton: 3:18

That's true.

Ashton: 3:19

The only thing. The only thing with these are, so I have to keep the volume low because of that. But with AirPods you can tell that they're listening to something. When it comes to these, you can't tell, so that I have noticed. I've seen one other person in real life wear these and it took me like I like stepped back for a moment because I was like, oh, that is so weird, like I just wasn't expecting that. You're used to seeing someone holding their phone, talking on speaker phone, or you're used to someone wearing airpods or having their phone next to them, but it's just, it's not there and it's. It's really freaky actually okay.

Brian: 4:00

So these okay. So I want to give a quick recap, as you're, you know, getting ready to dive into the glasses themselves. I know at MetaConnect they showed a lot of the new features, things that you can use these glasses for, like streaming live to Instagram, to Facebook. They have Meta AI that can see things. Like you said, the glasses can see what you're looking at. It's got the audio where you can hear I don't remember what they call it it's like a spatial audio, which is a really cool feature. Also, the translation stuff, like all this meta AI stuff. There's a lot packed in these glasses with the meta AI and I think that's why you're touching on saying, like you love this meta AI, you think this is very powerful. So those are just some of the quick insights of what I know that the glasses can do. So go ahead, explain more. Can you go a little bit deeper on the glasses, of what you've experienced? What you have experienced on the glasses so far?

Ashton: 4:54

So some of the things I've found really interesting with these. The commercials do a lot of identification related things, including, actually, I think, in the conference they also did it. So I've experimented with IDing plants and it has been pretty accurate. There's some hard ones that it's missed, but for the most part it's done really well. I have done building IDs. So when you're just walking through a city you look up at something and you're like what is this building? And it can find your location. Actually in Ohio we went to this place called Deeds Carillon and it did that perfectly. It looked right up at the building and knew exactly where we were.

Ashton: 5:36

I've done car IDs. So I've seen cars on the road and I'm like hey, what is this car? And it's got that really well. I learned that it does two different ways of doing that. It will either read the badges or, if it can't read the badges, it tries to identify the body shape. So it's pretty good because it tries to combine both. It can usually get the year like it, down to the model year, which is really impressive.

Brian: 5:59

It's actually. You can read. The text is what you're saying on the car. Interesting.

Ashton: 6:04

It's really impressive. Another one that has done very well is animal ID. I have been out fishing and it has been able to ID birds like herons that are walking by. It's been able to ID fish that I've caught. To be fair, I've only caught a largemouth bass, but it did get it, so that's impressive.

Brian: 6:29

Can you teach it? Can you say, like if you catch a bluegill you can say no, uh, this is a largemouth bass. Like, can you correct it? Like teach it I don't believe so. I don't believe so you know when you were little, like we would like, there was planes that would fly by and be like look a dog, and your mom said don't do that to him, he's going to grow up thinking that that's a dog and it's a plane. So I didn't know if we could do that to the Meta AI glasses.

Ashton: 6:51

I don't believe so. I don't believe so.

Shawna: 6:55

Teach it.

Ashton: 6:56

Something that Meta shows a lot of, though, something that they think is super impressive, which I agree, is their problem solving abilities. They can be presented with a problem and they will try and solve it. One that they advertise is it's a person holding a plant, like in a pot, and they're like meta. What's wrong with this plant? Is this plant healthy? And it can give them information on. Oh, it has yellow, has yellowing leaves, it may need water or it may need sunlight. That's something I wanted to ask you guys. What are some other problem-solving tasks it could do? What do you think?

Brian: 7:37

I got a dead plant back there. I should ask it what it needs. It's in really bad shape.

Ashton: 7:42

It'll probably tell you it's just dead.

Brian: 7:44

I'll blame it on the hurricane, but I don't think that was the problem.

Shawna: 7:48

You're supposed to be yeah, you're supposed to be blocking that with your head.

Ashton: 7:52

Like don't let me see the dead plant.

Shawna: 7:55

That's 100% my responsibility.

Brian: 7:57

You want me to hold it up in front of me and ask it what's?

Shawna: 8:01

wrong with the plant? No, no, no, thank you. What's wrong with the plan? No, no, no, thank you. Uh, ashton, I think um something that I heard that you did the other day that I think is a really interesting idea is to show ingredients and ask what you can make out of it, you know, for recipe ideas. Or you know, everybody has those days where you're like, oh, I don't know what to cook, but you have these few things.

Shawna: 8:24

I love that idea and it's hands-free, so it's not like you have to go get out your phone or your laptop and start searching and scroll through it. You can do it while you're doing other things, which I think is cool.

Ashton: 8:38

That is very impressive, because I was doing that in a store when I told her about that, I was caretaking for someone's house. No, that's not the word. What's it called Homesitting, is that?

Olivia: 8:49

what it's called yeah homesitting, yeah, homesitting.

Ashton: 8:52

I was house sitting for some friends and when I went out to get groceries I picked up some potatoes because I was just going to make some baked potatoes and I got normal ingredients. I got cheese and sour cream and all that and I was like you know what? I'm going to ask it what it thinks I should add. And one of the things that came up with was parsley and I was like that is such a good idea. I didn't even think about that, but it's just one of the things that they've been working really hard on.

Brian: 9:21

So you could look inside your refrigerator and say, do you have any recipes that I can use? What recipes can I use of these ingredients? Is that what you do? Is that kind of how the approach is?

Ashton: 9:33

You can do that and then, alongside that, it will tell you at what temperatures some things need to be cooked, at some things it knows how long. It's very helpful.

Brian: 9:44

Olivia, what about you? You got any ideas on this interesting?

Olivia: 9:48

um a couple things. Number one I was wondering does it have like um I get like gps on it, like if you're driving?

Ashton: 9:57

and you're wearing the glasses I've been trying to mess with that. I haven't been able to get it to. It does have GPS on its photos. When you take a photo with it, it can tell you where you took the photo. Now I don't know if it's adding that in the app, because there's a companion app to import the photos. So I don't know if it's the companion app adding that or if it's the glasses, because when you try to set up a GPS to it, it just turns these into Bluetooth speakers. The phone is still your GPS and these are just the speakers Gotcha gotcha.

Ashton: 10:31

And I've asked them for directions and it won't give them to me. It'll just open Waze. Yeah, I think you're right there.

Brian: 10:42

I've actually tested that online where, trying to ask it to show me my location, it says it cannot give geo, like it can't do geolocations right now or geotargeting, but it must, like you said it, probably. I get out at the airport and I look at my parking number or if I look at a road sign I can say remember where I parked my car.

Brian: 11:13

And I can look at those signs and it will tell me you're at your part at this street, at this corner or at this number, so you can't ask it to remind you of those things, which is great number so you can't ask it to remind you those things, which is great, yeah, no, I love that.

Shawna: 11:28

So I have a question. Yeah, that's really helpful. Can you like wear the glasses, like take off down the street or whatever, without having your phone with you, will it?

Ashton: 11:37

it will do certain things or is it it's? Limited without the phone. Okay, that is one of its downsides, is it? It is yeah.

Brian: 11:45

I don't think you have to have the phone. What do you mean limited? How is it?

Ashton: 11:50

limited without the phone. It's limited in most of its AI features because it does not have cell service. It's fully Bluetooth enabled. So if you go far away from your phone, one of the examples I have is when I was fishing, I left my phone near my tackle box and I walked to the other side of the lake and when it disconnected, it'll still take photos, It'll still take videos, but it won't the AI won't communicate with you. It won't play music, which makes sense because that's through the phone. So all of that is phone enabled.

Brian: 12:26

So that's usually about like 30 or 50 feet, I think. With the Bluetooth you have to be within that range. That's interesting to know. I didn't think I know about that.

Shawna: 12:34

Yeah, that is one of its downsides okay, I'm sure that at some point they'll have ones that will have, like their own, probably wi-fi connector, a cellular.

Ashton: 12:48

That's right, yeah, word, it is very similar to what the apple, so that you could very similar to what the apple watches do is probably what they will do because the first gen I think maybe second gen apple Watch didn't have cell service and then, shortly after that development cycle, they added it. So I'm sure that's what will happen to these, because these have been out what like a year, maybe not even.

Brian: 13:14

Yeah, well, the Ray-Bans, like the new ones, that has the Meta AI, has been out for over a year Because they just did the. I think they announced the not this last meta connect, but the connect before. But the ray bands have been out for longer than that.

Ashton: 13:27

They just didn't have the meta ai, so the meta yeah, so uh, yeah, I think we're talking about the meta ray band, the meta ray bands yeah, um, but uh.

Brian: 13:37

so, on a kind of like a funny side, I would love it if I could use use it as a use case to saying, hey, when I look at somebody said, remember that their name is Shawna, so then next time I see them, it's like this is Shawna.

Olivia: 13:51

Yeah, that would be so beneficial. I have not tested that that would be awesome.

Ashton: 13:57

It would be very interesting if it did, though.

Brian: 14:00

The other thing is like I do have a serious idea, but have you tested it?

Ashton: 14:07

That first one was serious. You said it's a joke, but I think that'd be useful.

Brian: 14:10

Have you tested it? Asking what kind of animal our dog is? Because we can never determine exactly 100% what breed she is.

Ashton: 14:18

So it does do that. I don't know how accurate it is. I don't have too much of a way to test it. The dogs it has tried it has been close. If they are mixed it can usually find the dominant gene and nothing else. So for example for our dog, uh, we were told that she's purebred yorkie. She might be, she may also have a little bit of dotson in her. These glasses just say she's yorkie or there's a golden retriever, that I know, and that's all.

Ashton: 14:53

it's mixed, but it only knew golden retriever, so it can find that primary thing, but it doesn't know any of the smaller ones, which makes sense, gotcha. That makes sense.

Olivia: 15:04

Yes, what it looks the most like that makes sense.

Brian: 15:06

Well, one of my ideas and Olivia, you probably would love this idea too or even Shawna like doing social media and stuff like that. I tested it out with Instagram. I have not tested out Facebook, but I love that you can do live stream videos with it, and what's cool about it is you can switch between cameras. Once you're live, I can be on the phone and the people on the phone looking at me, like you are right now like on a Zoom call and having that conversation, Be like here, check this out and I can just tap my glasses and it takes the camera and switches it to my glasses for a first person view. So, like, imagine, like at events, at concerts if you're speaking on a stage, it's like people can see what you're looking at. Even at the Meta Connect, when they brought out the Orion glasses, the person that was carrying the big metal case to Zuckerberg actually had a pair of these on and he he actually did a live video showing him actually walking out carrying him up and I'm opening it so it was super cool.

Brian: 16:07

Yeah, it was a really cool feel. So I want to kind of put this out there and ask you guys how do you guys see? Because, like, one of the things I've been looking at is like, if, if I do things on social media, how could I incorporate these and do a totally different approach? But do it like a first person view, like what are your thoughts about that? Cause that can really change your whole content creation process. Is that a wrong question to ask?

Shawna: 16:31

My camera's frozen. I'm just kidding. I don't think it's a wrong question, I just think that, uh, that it's going to take some thought, like I can definitely see some content ideas coming out of that. I love the idea. I like seeing videos like that that are point of view. Is that the right way to say it, like a first person view? Yeah, yeah, I could see it. I could see some things coming out of that. I just can't think of any specific.

Ashton: 16:57

Yeah, what I've personally used it, for I've been wanting to make reels for a long time just to mess around, and so when I've been out taking photos, I've been using these and I've really liked the videos so far. They're really smooth, the image stabilization is really good, but before there wasn't that many point of view options. I mean you can do a GoPro strapped up high. There are cameras you can get that clip onto your hat bill, but not exactly like a pair of glasses, and so it does record out of your left camera, so it is barely off center when you move your head, but you really don't notice. I have a reel up on my Instagram account that if you want to see a good example, that's a great place to go to go see one.

Brian: 17:48

Well, actually, Ashton, you should give us the link. We'll put it in the show notes as well, so people can check it out, because that actually is a really good point.

Brian: 17:54

That was a really cool reel that you did because it showed you actually being out at the locations and walking around, because it showed you actually being out at the locations and walking around and all of a sudden you lifted up your camera and you went and it went to the free shot of the actual camera from the, the photo from the camera, which is a really cool feel. So I think, the creativity of how you can approach content wearing these glasses. I was actually talking to someone recently that said that they have been for the last year recording a personal journal for their kids and to remember, like their I guess, their mom's entire life, like how she's, the different things she's doing throughout the day, so it's like a live journal that they can go back and replay from her point of view. Oh, I love that idea yeah, that's so cool.

Olivia: 18:40

Yeah, I was just gonna yeah To your question. I do think that you know, people like Ashton talked about already, kind of do that kind of reel where it's like from a first person perspective. But I do think that these glasses will make it so much easier because there is, you know, like you have to have certain cameras, like I know they sell some now that you wear around your neck and like there's a lot of setup and things that go into getting that point of view. So I think this is definitely going to save people a lot of time, that's for sure I was.

Ashton: 19:24

I was just going to mention that is the ease of use. They're just. You just put them on, they connect. You don't have to do anything else. You just hit the button, that's it.

Shawna: 19:32

They're recording and also, you can actually even like go ahead, go ahead, Shawna I was gonna say also wouldn't you just feel like you so conspicuous, like you stand out like a sore thumb if you've got a camera on your hat or on your neck, Like you know it would feel uncomfortable and with the glasses it's just like oh, you don't have glasses.

Brian: 19:53

The thing about the glasses too. I remember doing this at. We went to a car show and I was just taking photos just with the glasses and they. We went to a car show and I was just taking photos just with the glasses and and they came out amazing. It was, you know, getting used to, like you said, ashton, the cameras on the left lens. There's a right one.

Brian: 20:07

So, like right now, I don't have to even tap it. I can just say hey, meta, record a video. And I don't know if you guys can see that right now it's recording. But do you see that light that just lit up on my right side of my glasses? That lets everybody know that I'm recording? Hey, meta, stop the recording. So it makes beeps and stuff and gives me a light on the inside. So I know it's doing stuff, but I don't have to even touch the glasses. I can just ask it to hey, meta, take a photo. And there it goes. It flashes a white light. So people that might be listening and thinking about what privacy concerns, uh, there is a bright light that shines. And they did, I believe. Ashton correct me if I'm wrong. I think they made it where if you try to cover that light up.

Ashton: 20:50

It will not work but what's really nice is it knows the difference and if you're trying or not trying to cover it and it can tell. So, like if my hat bill is too low, it says, hey, your hat is in your camera's way, but we're still recording which is really nice. And then if it realizes the led is covered which I have no clue how it detects that, but it can, uh, if it realizes that, then it tells you hey, your LED is covered, we are not recording.

Brian: 21:25

So tell us about the translation stuff, because I know there's a lot there. That's something that I feel like is so useful to a lot of people in everyday life. Have you tested that? Explain to us how they explain that should work so I've tested it.

Ashton: 21:44

It works really well, from what I can tell. Uh, the main way I've tested it is by reading signs. I've done this at a few different locations, including an airport. It works really well. It just reads the sign and and just translate it for you.

Brian: 22:01

Uh, so it's really good reading a sign like in a different language that are different language. You can look at it and ask so what do you do? Do you ask it like, let's say, we're reading, it's a spanish sign, or maybe it's a sign written in france, a french so? It's written in france and it's actually written in. It's actually in german, but they wrote in france, so normally what you do.

Ashton: 22:22

They did just release an update, so I don't know if you have to specify the language now I don't think you do how? Like the exact command you give it is hey, meta, can you translate this sign for me, making sure mine didn't turn on no, so you don't know, you don't have to do, you have to say translated to english, or it just automatically knows what language it knows your primary language. You set that in the app when you set it up. Gotcha, gotcha.

Shawna: 22:48

Very cool.

Ashton: 22:49

And so you tried that and it worked well. Yeah, it worked great, from what I could tell. I don't know Spanish so I don't exactly know what the sign said, but it used proper grammar. There was an English and a Spanish sign right next to each other I believe it was a bathroom sign and when I read it it just read the exact same thing that was on the English one, so I'm assuming that that is what that sign said they were right next to each other.

Ashton: 23:11

So I think that was it. I made sure that it couldn't see the other sign too, just to make sure it wasn't cheating, did you?

Brian: 23:20

like peek your head and say excuse me, is this the men's?

Olivia: 23:22

bathroom.

Brian: 23:22

Just want to make sure before I come in.

Olivia: 23:24

No, no, I don't think traveling abroad really is a lot easier, for sure.

Ashton: 23:35

It would, and something else that they're working on, which was also in the commercial, is having two pairs between two people and you being able to talk to each other and it translating.

Shawna: 23:47

That would be amazing.

Ashton: 23:50

Which is really nice. Something that I haven't tested yet is if they can do audio translation. If you can hear something and it translate it for you, I wouldn't be surprised if they can do it. If it's not available yet, it is available soon, because they did market that also in the meta connect. Um, oh, that's what my next thing. Was there anything else you guys wanted to say?

Olivia: 24:16

I have a question. So I wear contacts and I have a pretty heavy prescription. So even if I were to get random reading glasses at CVS or something that makes my vision look blurry, so what is the prescription, or can you get them to your prescription, or what's that like with wearing these glasses?

Ashton: 24:43

So I know you can get prescription for them. I haven't yet I haven't messed with that. I'm planning on doing it eventually. I just haven't set aside the money to do that yet. But, Shawna, what would you say, because I know you just wore them? Was it really blurry when you wore them with your contacts before you got on here?

Shawna: 25:05

No, so it's just a plain glass, as far as I can tell. So I wear contacts as well. So when I was using them it was completely clear, just like normal. Yeah, I think that's. The only downfall is if someone only wears glasses and has a prescription, but doesn't want to pay the money to have a prescription put in their meta glasses, then that that's hard to use, right, ashton? Because you've tried using them, you know, without your glasses, and then, of course, you can't always see everything great. So I think if you have contacts, not a problem. If you have perfect vision, not a problem. Or if you get your prescription in them, not a problem. But otherwise, you know, if you have glasses, I think, then you're going to have some issues.

Brian: 25:48

Yeah, yeah, I know mine. I don't have prescriptions in mine and my glasses Like if I put these on I can see a lot better than with the Ray-Bans. But so I would definitely suggest if you wear glasses I would get the go ahead and pay and have the prescription lenses put in it. I know that they have a company that does that when you order them for meta.

Ashton: 26:13

So that would be the way I would definitely go if you need those so kind of off. The same thing as translating. These are really good at reading and actually I just had Shawna test this with me too. When you take these and you put them on and everything, you can actually ask it to read a page and it will take a photo of a page of your book and read them to you and it actually sounds really nice. Or you can even ask it to summarize for you. So I took my book and I opened to the preface and I had it summarize the preface for me and it did really well, like it took all these. It took all these words and turned it to like maybe two sentences worth of summary. It was really, really impressive.

Brian: 26:59

Interesting, so it takes, you just ask it. You just look at something and what do you say?

Ashton: 27:05

The exact command is hey, Meta, can you read this to me? You can say can you read this page to me? You can also say hey, Meta, please summarize this for me, oh, okay.

Brian: 27:18

Nice.

Shawna: 27:21

I found this interesting when Ashton showed me what you know how to do it and what it felt like, what it you know sounded like, I found it very interesting that it said, just to give you a heads up, this is starting with the preface. Because that's just an interesting detail to me, because, of course, if you think you're starting a book, preface oftentimes is very different, or sometimes even just an introduction, and so I thought that was interesting. It's like, hey, don't think this is like the beginning of the book.

Brian: 27:53

If you're using these glasses to give you a summary of the book for your class, this is a preface. You probably want to go a little bit deeper than that.

Shawna: 28:01

Yeah, exactly.

Olivia: 28:04

Yeah.

Brian: 28:05

Where does this information go? Like in chat, gbt, you know it has like a text history. So if you're asking these things and you're asking it to, if you're asking questions and stuff, where does it go? Can you? Can you access that outside?

Ashton: 28:20

the actual glasses. Where does it go? Can you? Can you access that outside the actual glasses? Yes, you can access it also in the companion app. There's a history log in the companion app and it also saves a photo. I think it saves the photo for like a month. Oh, okay so if you say, read this and you go back and look in the history, it's going to have that photo there so you can actually double check what it said and everything.

Brian: 28:41

And you said it's like would you call it a companion log? Is that you? It's going to have that photo there so you can actually double check what it said and everything? And you said it's like would you call it a companion log? Is that what you said? It's a companion app, okay. Is that accessible on a desktop or only on the meta app on the phone? I don't know.

Ashton: 28:52

I don't know if it's accessible on desktop, I've only used it through a phone. I know it works on Apple, I know it works on Android, I don't know on Mac, linux and Windows, so that would definitely be something to check out.

Brian: 29:05

I would definitely like to know that, because if I could access the history on the computer, that would be probably easier than using the Meta app. So cool, now does it require a different app? We're not talking about the Facebook app, right?

Ashton: 29:17

We're talking about yeah, it's a different app. That's why, yeah, it's a different app. That's why, yeah, it's a companion app. It's called MetaView. It's its own app. It doesn't use Facebook or Instagram.

Brian: 29:28

Okay, and how about storage space? Like? Is it? Does it record in the cloud? Is it, though? Is it actually the device?

Ashton: 29:36

space. It stays on the glasses until it syncs to the app where you can choose to delete it where you want to. Uh, you can have it specified when you go to delete something. Delete only from meta view, delete from glasses, delete from phone. Okay, all right, those are your three options. It will record by itself. Like I was kind of telling you when I was fishing, I can walk to the other side of the lake. It'll still take photos and record. It just doesn't immediately sync. Can't play music, can't use Meta AI, okay so, now that you said that, here's a concern.

Brian: 30:09

Should people be taking these things off when they go in bathrooms and stuff like that, or what?

Ashton: 30:13

so it is meta. It meta is known for data collection. I don't know how much it is leaving the companion app. I personally don't wear them in the bathroom, uh, so take that as you will. I'm not. Meta is pretty protective over stuff. It's pretty hard to find that information. So I'll leave that part at that interesting.

Brian: 30:45

I just thought that would be a good concern there.

Ashton: 30:49

Yeah, I, um, it is meta so I don't trust them in that sense. But it's also meta, which means they have really good uh, a really good user interface. They're good at that with their social media apps. They're good at their sound design, so kind of how you were talking about before, brian, about it beeping. It's not an annoying beep, it's not like an oven beep. That's like just always annoying you. It's actually a really nice beep.

Ashton: 31:14

It's never bothered me, it's actually been very informative when it you know if you're not talking to them and they think you're talking to them they do a little beep before they start talking, and so it doesn't really catch you off guard. It's just kind of I don't know. It's kind of just there. It lets you know that something's happening.

Brian: 31:35

Well, I definitely know it's kind of just there. It lets you know that something's happening. Well, I definitely know I've enjoyed them on my reflection time because I didn't think I would enjoy listening to music on as much as I do. But I really love them because it's so different to be able to walk around and still hear the nature around you and hear music silently or a podcast, and not have things stuck in my ears. So I've been really amazed with I didn't think I would like that would be that important, but it really helps me be present even while wearing the glasses. So I love this spatial audio and I think it's a great, great thing and I love.

Brian: 32:05

How like you got you know you can control everything by touching and swiping. Just type touching the glasses to turn up the volume, turn it down.

Ashton: 32:14

It's just amazing. What's that? The gestures are amazing.

Brian: 32:18

Yeah, they're great, and that's why I mean it's. You could also just ask it to do it, but it's very nice. You can just lightly swipe on the glasses.

Shawna: 32:27

Does it have the ability? You know, like Brian you talked about the plod was called plod or plod note, uh in the past about how it will record and then in the app it transcribes for you. Does it have an option like that, like if you're listening to a speech or something, that you could record it and then yeah, I was just curious I can check real quick, I can check.

Ashton: 32:49

I know that it does do the transcripts for what it sees on its image. I don't know if it does audio because its mics are really good. It points specifically at you because I've walked around on the phone before and people can't hear outside of the glasses, which I've been really impressed by because actually when I flew to ohio recently I called you guys and it it. You guys can't even tell it was just so. Here's the. Here's the downside.

Brian: 33:21

I don't think it will work. And here's the here's the reason why. Uh, I love what you're talking about with the mic action, because even when I had them on whenever you said meta, like it didn't recognize you saying that, so it wasn't going off on my face, so it must be a directional mic when you're speaking. If I, if I record a video, what's really cool about it is actually uses it uses spatial audio, so like if you're on my left side and then someone else is on the right when it records, it's using that. So if you play it back, that person is going to be on the left speaker, the right speaker. So that's really cool.

Brian: 33:56

But here's the here's. The reason why I say it probably doesn't do that is there's only a three minute time limit on recording anything I was just gonna mention. So where, like the plot, I can hit record, like and I got this new one now, so I'll have to cover that next time but I can hit record, I can record as long as I want and it's taking all the notes and then and then takes it into ai and does all the summaries and stuff like that. So I don't think that it can do that. To that ability plus the battery life on those on these glasses aren't like top of the line, I think what they say like. I think if you turn off the meta ai it's about four to six hours, but with it it on it's like two hours.

Ashton: 34:33

I was actually just working on getting around to that, so I'm actually really impressed because they advertise very low numbers. I've gotten very high numbers out of mine the entire time I used them for the reel that I published. I was recording. I think I got like I think I was recording about an hour that day and anytime I wasn't recording I probably was actually closer to two hours, but anytime I wasn't recording I was playing music and they went the whole day without ever being put in their case.

Ashton: 35:06

So that was roughly six hours of music, two hours of recording, and I filled up at storage twice recording where I had to go to the meta app. I had to remove all from glasses, make sure all was saved to my phone and then just kept recording. So I don't know if this is the Wayfair large. It may have a larger battery, so that is possible. The limited editions do not come in large, so it may have a smaller battery, but I don't know why they would do that. Well, because they were connected to my phone the entire time. In fact, actually my phone almost died multiple times during that trip because the Ray-Bans were outliving the phone, so I'm not sure. That's kind of a gray area.

Brian: 35:58

I do like that. You can put the phones you charge the case. So once you charge the case you can put the glasses back in here and it'll charge them back up, so that is a nice feature of the case.

Olivia: 36:09

So what is the price point on these bad boys?

Ashton: 36:15

so they can go anywhere. So these are 300, I believe. If you get the special lenses put in them, the they have a transition. If you get transition you have actually.

Brian: 36:28

Yeah, the ones that you have are actually. Those are actually let me correct you those are like around 400 and something. So cause.

Ashton: 36:34

Those have transitional lenses. That's what I'm, that's what I'm trying to get to. They're $300. With transitional lenses it adds $70 to that price, and then the limited editions are, or were, slightly more, and then I don't know how much it costs to put prescriptions in. I don't know if that is covered. I'm assuming it's not. It's probably not and from what I understand, you can get transitionals and prescriptions, because that's what I'm going to be doing.

Shawna: 37:02

Yeah, that makes sense.

Ashton: 37:04

So they're moderately priced. They're a little expensive, especially compared to some other AI things, but they're also very good and they're glasses. So once you take into account that their glasses, people pay more than that just for a pair of sunglasses. So it's kind of on the in-between. So I think they're. I think they're like between three 500.

Olivia: 37:24

Yeah, that's actually not as much as I thought you were going to say. I honestly was thinking closer to like 800 plus actually.

Ashton: 37:35

Really Wow they. I mean they feel like they could be yeah.

Olivia: 37:39

So and I wonder if you know how, like oh sorry, oh no, go ahead. I was just going to say I wonder if, as they continue to improve, if they'll have like a version that is more affordable for people, just so more people can have access to them, that you know how iPhones have different levels, maybe they'll have different levels of glasses as well.

Ashton: 38:05

I could see that yeah, I could see lower quality cameras and you know a few things like that. I could definitely see that. Uh, just a few more things I just wanted to cover real quick. Uh, they are kind of like what I was telling you guys. They're really good with their cameras. Uh, I've used them to id a few different items and to give me history on a few different items.

Ashton: 38:26

So I had it check out my polaroid camera. It could tell me the exact model, the year, what kind of film it took. I had it help me with some brainstorming questions. I'm designing a little lure, so I have it drawn in my notebook and I had it help me paint it. So it came up with like you should put pink on it because the bass like the color pink. They strike that because they believe it's injured, and to put little green stripes going down it on a base coat of green and it I mean it's done a lot. Even like the little board in the back. I had it describe everything that was on the board.

Ashton: 39:03

So, like it went through and said this note says this this handwritten note says this there's jewelry hanging off of it. There are fedoras next to it. Uh, there appears to be like passes, like concert passes hanging off of it, all kinds of things, like it's done really, really well, even going down to like, hey, is this room considered clean? Would you call this hotel room clean? Uh, and it would tell me that when I, when I asked it about this room, it was like this room is clean, but there are books on the ground because there's books sitting in the corner. It was like so I would get a shelf for that and I was like, yeah, I'm not doing that, I like my passion, I think that what I, what my takeaway on this is.

Brian: 39:47

I think that really what sets these things apart and why the like why you're saying the meta ai is like one of the top ones that you've like you feel right now is because it's a, it's the ai version that actually sees what you're seeing. It's it's not like like chat, gbt, like they have video formats on here now where you can actually ask it and it's looking at you and stuff like that. But I guess you could. You might be able to reverse your phone I haven't tested that, but being able to naturally have the glasses on and not have to pull out your phone and ask all that and you can just talk to your glasses and it responds, I think that's an amazing use case for AI in a wearable. I think that's the thing.

Brian: 40:27

This is one of the first wearables out there for AI, so I would love to hear other people's thoughts on the podcast. If you're listening, let us know. Click the text us message on the show notes. Let us know some of the thoughts that you have, maybe some ideas or questions you have about these meta AI Ray-Bans like, maybe some use cases that you might have or some concerns we would love to hear from you as well. Ashton, do you have anything else you want to wrap up with?

Ashton: 40:54

I mean, they're just great glasses and I've really enjoyed using them and, as far as I know, they're the only smart wearable including AI wearable that looks like normal glasses, like if you saw these. They don't look like they're, you know, big, clunky, like, basically like a VR headset. They're just really nice looking. So, even if you weren't going to use the features as much, it might be worth just getting a pair of the sunglasses because they are Ray-Ban. The sunglasses are amazing.

Brian: 41:27

So just imagine when Orion comes out. That's going to be a whole game changer. Augmented reality in glasses like that it's going to be incredible. Well, with that, if you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to click follow and leave us a review.